John David EdelmanAge: 431736–1780
- Name
- John David Edelman
- Given names
- John David
- Surname
- Edelman
Birth | December 1, 1736 28 29 |
Baptism | May 15, 1737 (Age 5 months) Note: Sponsors: David Edelmann + wife |
Birth of a brother | Daniel Edelman about 1738 (Age 13 months) |
Birth of a sister | Anna Maria Edelman about 1740 (Age 3) |
Birth of a sister | Eva Catherine Edelman November 15, 1742 (Age 5) |
Baptism of a sister | Eva Catherine Edelman December 16, 1742 (Age 6) Note: Sponsored by Barnhart Young and wife |
sponsorship | Sponsorship of baptism February 14, 1757 (Age 20)Note: Jacob Lischy's private pastoral record. Jacob Lischy was ministering to the German community in what would later become Manchester, Carroll County, Maryland. |
Religion | Reformed and Lutheran February 12, 1760 (Age 23) |
Birth of a son #1 | Gorg Heinrich Edelman 1761 (Age 24) |
Baptism of a son | Gorg Heinrich Edelman March 24, 1761 (Age 24) Note: Jacob Lischy's private pastoral record |
Birth of a daughter #2 | Anna Maria Edelman 1762 (Age 25) |
Death of a father | Philip Jacob Edelmann 1762 (Age 25) Note: Philip Edelmann did not sign a document supporting a school. His two sons and his wife did. |
Baptism of a daughter | Anna Maria Edelman March 7, 1762 (Age 25) |
Religion | Zion Church (The German Church) 1762 (Age 25) |
Religion | Reformed Church, the German Settlement 1767 (Age 30) |
Residence | 1771 (Age 34) Source: The Dutch Settlement on Abbotts Creek: a history of Pilgrim Reformed United Church of Christ Publication: Booneville, NC: Whitline Ink, Inc., 2nd ed., 1979. Citation details: pp. 3-4 Text: The area around Abbotts Creek attracted a substantial number of settlers within the decade between 1745 and 1755. Among these settlers were ... Philip Sauer, ... Adam Conrad....Most of these men were members of the Reformed church.... |
Residence | July 31, 1776 (Age 39) |
Military | Kentucky expedition against the Ohio Indians October 7, 1778 (Age 41)Agency: Capt. Richard May's company under command of Col. John Bowman |
Death | 1780 (Age 43) Source: papers of Alice Wakefield Text:
Your message posting regarding Catherine Harrow was sent to our list (Ruddlesfort). The Ruddlesfort group are descendants of the people who were captured by the British and Indians at Ruddell’s and Martin’s Station in 1780. Among those were the Eddleman family, which your Catherine may have been a member. This is what we know:
David and Catherine Eddleman came to Kentucky about 1778 and lived at Logan’s Station.
David served at Logan’s Station in Capt. Richard May’s company as a private in 1778-1779.
About April 1779 he was transferred to Capt. Isaac Ruddell’s company and served until Oct of 1779.
David died during the winter of 1779/80 as his wife Catherine received a settlement certificate for 400 acres of land in present day Bourbon Co., KY.
Ruddell’s Station was attacked by British and Indians on June 24, 1780 and all the people were captured. It’s presumed that the Eddlemans were still residing at the fort.
The history of Decatur Indiana mentions Daniel Eddleman and his capture by the Indians, but does not specifically say he was at Ruddells.
In a July 1783 issue of the Pennsylvania Gazette, there was a list of people who were still captives of the Indians. Listed were “Caty Etelmaw, Daniel Etelmaw” and “David Etelmaw.” It has been presumed that this was Catherine Eddleman (the mother), Daniel and John. However it could be your Catherine and her two brothers. We’re not sure David is the same as John or not. A bio of Daniel Eddleman mentions that his brother James may have been killed by the Indians. The names in the list were usually listed in order of birth. This would coincide with the birth of your Catherine (abt. 1765), Daniel (abt 1770 ) and John/David (abt. 1775).
Catherine, the mother, later married John Burger about 1785, a fellow captive from Ruddell’s. They lived in Bourbon Co., KY for a while and later settled in Indiana. Catherine received her 400 acres in Kentucky, which was later transferred to John Burger her husband.
Bio of Daniel Eddleman:
( History of Decatur Co., Indiana) “Daniel Eddleman, with his mother and brother, was sheltered in a strong cabin… and while there they were attacked by Indians and Daniel was taken by Indians to near Lafayette, where he was kept until 12 years old, when he was returned to Kentucky and claimed by his mother. It is thought Daniel's brother James was killed or burned to death by the Indians. Daniel died in Jackson County, Indiana, aged 98. He was a hunter, trapper, and loved hunting better than farming. He learned the Indian method of counting on fingers: ‘nequita, nesway, netheny, narroway, nollony, cutatha, nesothy, sathaky, sockaty, and metathy’ and then up to 100 or more by doubling the hands, etc. Eddelmans came to Decatur County in early twenties and settled in Jackson Township. Their log cabin was replaced...”
Harold Eddleman is the expert on this family. You may want to contact him:
http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/eg810.htm
I hope this helps,
Jim Sellars
PS: My family was also at Ruddell’s Station in 1780 when it was captured.
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Family with parents - View family |
father |
Philip Jacob Edelmann Birth: about 1708 24 29 — Germany Death: 1762 — Manchester, Carroll County, Maryland |
mother |
Maria Margaretha Wenner Birth: 1707 — Palatine |
Marriage: January 15, 1732 — Oberhoffen = 67160 Wissembourg |
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-2 years elder brother |
Baltasar Edelmann Birth: 1729 21 22 — Palatine |
8 years |
John David Edelman Birth: December 1, 1736 28 29 — Lancaster, Pennsylvania Death: 1780 — Kentucky |
2 years younger brother |
Daniel Edelman Birth: about 1738 30 31 — |
3 years younger sister |
Anna Maria Edelman Birth: about 1740 32 33 — |
3 years younger sister |
Eva Catherine Edelman Birth: November 15, 1742 34 35 — Hanover, York County, Pennsylvania |
Family with Catharina … - View family |
John David Edelman Birth: December 1, 1736 28 29 — Lancaster, Pennsylvania Death: 1780 — Kentucky |
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wife | |
son |
Gorg Heinrich Edelman Birth: 1761 24 — |
2 years daughter |
Anna Maria Edelman Birth: 1762 25 — Manchester, Carroll County, Maryland |
Residence | The Dutch Settlement on Abbotts Creek: a history of Pilgrim Reformed United Church of Christ Publication: Booneville, NC: Whitline Ink, Inc., 2nd ed., 1979. Citation details: pp. 3-4 Text: The area around Abbotts Creek attracted a substantial number of settlers within the decade between 1745 and 1755. Among these settlers were ... Philip Sauer, ... Adam Conrad....Most of these men were members of the Reformed church.... |
Death | papers of Alice Wakefield Text:
Your message posting regarding Catherine Harrow was sent to our list (Ruddlesfort). The Ruddlesfort group are descendants of the people who were captured by the British and Indians at Ruddell’s and Martin’s Station in 1780. Among those were the Eddleman family, which your Catherine may have been a member. This is what we know:
David and Catherine Eddleman came to Kentucky about 1778 and lived at Logan’s Station.
David served at Logan’s Station in Capt. Richard May’s company as a private in 1778-1779.
About April 1779 he was transferred to Capt. Isaac Ruddell’s company and served until Oct of 1779.
David died during the winter of 1779/80 as his wife Catherine received a settlement certificate for 400 acres of land in present day Bourbon Co., KY.
Ruddell’s Station was attacked by British and Indians on June 24, 1780 and all the people were captured. It’s presumed that the Eddlemans were still residing at the fort.
The history of Decatur Indiana mentions Daniel Eddleman and his capture by the Indians, but does not specifically say he was at Ruddells.
In a July 1783 issue of the Pennsylvania Gazette, there was a list of people who were still captives of the Indians. Listed were “Caty Etelmaw, Daniel Etelmaw” and “David Etelmaw.” It has been presumed that this was Catherine Eddleman (the mother), Daniel and John. However it could be your Catherine and her two brothers. We’re not sure David is the same as John or not. A bio of Daniel Eddleman mentions that his brother James may have been killed by the Indians. The names in the list were usually listed in order of birth. This would coincide with the birth of your Catherine (abt. 1765), Daniel (abt 1770 ) and John/David (abt. 1775).
Catherine, the mother, later married John Burger about 1785, a fellow captive from Ruddell’s. They lived in Bourbon Co., KY for a while and later settled in Indiana. Catherine received her 400 acres in Kentucky, which was later transferred to John Burger her husband.
Bio of Daniel Eddleman:
( History of Decatur Co., Indiana) “Daniel Eddleman, with his mother and brother, was sheltered in a strong cabin… and while there they were attacked by Indians and Daniel was taken by Indians to near Lafayette, where he was kept until 12 years old, when he was returned to Kentucky and claimed by his mother. It is thought Daniel's brother James was killed or burned to death by the Indians. Daniel died in Jackson County, Indiana, aged 98. He was a hunter, trapper, and loved hunting better than farming. He learned the Indian method of counting on fingers: ‘nequita, nesway, netheny, narroway, nollony, cutatha, nesothy, sathaky, sockaty, and metathy’ and then up to 100 or more by doubling the hands, etc. Eddelmans came to Decatur County in early twenties and settled in Jackson Township. Their log cabin was replaced...”
Harold Eddleman is the expert on this family. You may want to contact him:
http://www.disknet.com/indiana_biolab/eg810.htm
I hope this helps,
Jim Sellars
PS: My family was also at Ruddell’s Station in 1780 when it was captured.
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Baptism | Sponsors: David Edelmann + wife |
sponsorship | Jacob Lischy's private pastoral record. Jacob Lischy was ministering to the German community in what would later become Manchester, Carroll County, Maryland. |